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that is to move our payroll tax to gross receipt tax and why? because by doing that we can create jobs in san francisco and keep people in san francisco . the kids are growing up and we want them to stay but we need jobs. i agree with mr. crowley with the police force and make sure that is fully staffed and i have been speaking to the police athletic league and they have a program to breen the teenagers to be interns in the police force and they would feed into the police cadet program. thank you. >> thank you sir. the next question the city's liabilities are projected to increase in the next coming year. s what new or increased fees should it institute and i will repeat the question and we will begin with mr. crowley. >> i would say that one of the bigger things that we will have before us is the gross receipts tax check that norman talked about trading from the payroll tax which is punitive. the next thing i would do is increase the foot print on mos sony center and that brings in a lot of money to the general fund and erect a multi-purpose ar
that is to move our payroll tax to gross receipt tax and why? because by doing that we can create jobs in san francisco and keep people in san francisco . the kids are growing up and we want them to stay but we need jobs. i agree with mr. crowley with the police force and make sure that is fully staffed and i have been speaking to the police athletic league and they have a program to breen the teenagers to be interns in the police force and they would feed into the police cadet program. thank...
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you know i think that the gross revenue tax is a progressive tax and that tax would allow new businesses, small businesses able to flourish so we have something to look forward to with that. that being said treasure island seems to me a car dependent project and unless you have a ferry that is going there and dropping you off, but that would be somewhat time consuming. the same is true with hunter's point and the problem is there isn't a lot of transportation near there. the trances bay terminal next to bart, next to cal train this is a great project and has so much commuter friendly things going on there, and as far as i am concerned when it comes to development in san francisco it's got to stop. >> all right. thank you sir. >> there are three parts of the economy, the consumer, the investment and the government. the only reason thing that has grown on a rapid rate is the government. the government gets their revenues through taxation or borrowing money. the problem is the regulations are hurting small businesses. 2/3 of all jobs are created by small business which are considered -- cha
you know i think that the gross revenue tax is a progressive tax and that tax would allow new businesses, small businesses able to flourish so we have something to look forward to with that. that being said treasure island seems to me a car dependent project and unless you have a ferry that is going there and dropping you off, but that would be somewhat time consuming. the same is true with hunter's point and the problem is there isn't a lot of transportation near there. the trances bay...
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and why are they not -- twitter got a tax break, a payroll tax break, but it was a lot more than that the public didn't hear about. we pay for a muni bus that is dedicated directly and only to where interstate twitter is located. they can afford to pay for a muni bus. they are also getting a police station, their own police substation. >> thank you, miss olague. >> it's easy to talk about the waste in upper management, but i think what we need is the political will to challenge that waste. and i think we have to look at it through the budget process. so i think it's very important during the budget process -- i wasn't on the budget committee this last year, but i do hope to sit on the budget committee in the next year. and i think that we need to make some of the hard political decisions and that is why i think a lot of waste does continue on the upper level because no one is willing to really take a hard look and make those very difficult decisions. i think that sometimes when you look at programs, i think some of the information that hope johnson mentioned about the sunshine task fo
and why are they not -- twitter got a tax break, a payroll tax break, but it was a lot more than that the public didn't hear about. we pay for a muni bus that is dedicated directly and only to where interstate twitter is located. they can afford to pay for a muni bus. they are also getting a police station, their own police substation. >> thank you, miss olague. >> it's easy to talk about the waste in upper management, but i think what we need is the political will to challenge that...
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should the city legalize these arrangements and collect the hotel tax? >> i traveled to different countries and i go to the internet and they have hotels and these rentals advertise and i have used these apartments as rentals for either a few days or one week and it's kind of nice to be there so i would support it and once you have it legalized you have again another base of revenues to tax and if they do advertisement and most will or go through an agency people would know about it, so it's not like -- right now we're gaining nothing and people are doing it anyways so why don't we take advantage of the fact we legalize it and actually increase our tax revenue. >> thank you sir. >> well, i know this issue got some press earlier this year but i don't know how widespread it is. i mean is this a real issue that really needs to be dealt with or is this solutions looking for a problem? i just don't know. i would to know how how widespread it is and if it's taking a bite of out of the city's tourist dollars or getting more press than it should? i don't know th
should the city legalize these arrangements and collect the hotel tax? >> i traveled to different countries and i go to the internet and they have hotels and these rentals advertise and i have used these apartments as rentals for either a few days or one week and it's kind of nice to be there so i would support it and once you have it legalized you have again another base of revenues to tax and if they do advertisement and most will or go through an agency people would know about it, so...
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a tax on job-creation. it doesn't make sense. so i'm happy to report that we at last are reforming our business tax structure to stop taxing jobs. and help companies large and small to stay here, to grow here, and to continue starting here as well. we need to protect existing jobs and we need to spur job-creation. our consensus measure, which is by the way proposition e on the ballot this year will generate new revenue for housing, economic development and critical infrastructure like muni and roads and, in fact, it received 100% agreement with the board of supervisors. and because of growing and vibrant economy requires growing and diverse supply of new housing, we have also agreed on a housing trust fund, creating a permanent source of revenue to fund the production of housing in san francisco. it will ensure our city continues to be a viable place for everyone to live at every different economic spectrum. i remain committed to stabilizing and increasing middle to low-income housing, because building more
a tax on job-creation. it doesn't make sense. so i'm happy to report that we at last are reforming our business tax structure to stop taxing jobs. and help companies large and small to stay here, to grow here, and to continue starting here as well. we need to protect existing jobs and we need to spur job-creation. our consensus measure, which is by the way proposition e on the ballot this year will generate new revenue for housing, economic development and critical infrastructure like muni and...
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it will bring businesses in and it will turn around and increase our tax base and it has to come from the private sector and i believe the project is a very good project and i support it. >> thank you sir. mr. yee. >> here are my two criterias when it comes to housing. i believe in reasonable growth and i believe in healthy robust community process, so here we are. we just developed something in our district on ocean avenue and we had a healthy discussion around the avalon development. broke ground. no protests. people agreed on it. felix circle we had a healthy discussion and we will have additional housing there too. i was just up on crest mount drive. there is controversy over there whether this is reasonable or not and i don't think the developer who is have presented the project is reasonable, but the neighbors in seem to be reasonable because they weren't saying "don't build anything". they said "let's scale down the development somewhat" so i support those notions of reasonable growth, community process and i do support proposition c for affordable housing funds. >> thank you s
it will bring businesses in and it will turn around and increase our tax base and it has to come from the private sector and i believe the project is a very good project and i support it. >> thank you sir. mr. yee. >> here are my two criterias when it comes to housing. i believe in reasonable growth and i believe in healthy robust community process, so here we are. we just developed something in our district on ocean avenue and we had a healthy discussion around the avalon...
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our hotels are required to pay a hotel tax. and yet we know there are thousands of folks who are being rented to in situations similar to that hotel context. that don't have to pay any fair share of the cost that our city has to spend to deal with the 16 million tourists that come in every year. so that is another conversation that i think we need to have as well. as you can imagine, these are complicated issues, which is why it's taking me a little bit of time both to convene stakeholders and draft legislation, but i hope in the coming weeks and months that we'll have a proposal that we can all start talking about more publicly. >> thank you, president chiu. supervisor wiener? >> thank you. and i want to thank president chiu for his and his staff's hard work on this. i know there was a lot of dialogue and negotiation and i really appreciate that effort. i will be supporting the legislation today. i did initially have a concern with the original form of the legislation around the enforcement mechanisms and what that might end u
our hotels are required to pay a hotel tax. and yet we know there are thousands of folks who are being rented to in situations similar to that hotel context. that don't have to pay any fair share of the cost that our city has to spend to deal with the 16 million tourists that come in every year. so that is another conversation that i think we need to have as well. as you can imagine, these are complicated issues, which is why it's taking me a little bit of time both to convene stakeholders and...
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you can't put it on the property tax rule. they do that because they understand the department's need, certain powers, there has to be balance and equity among certain groups. i guess the water department is able to put this on the property tax role too. without getting into details because i know my time is limited. there's a lot of things i'm uncovering. this just seemed quite unfair. it tilts the balance of fairness away from the property owners who are semi-innocent in this situation. >> your point is clear and we will take a look at that and get a report back. >> should i have -- i have the stuff you sent. would there be any help in me submitting this or no? >> yes, if you could give that to todd. >> okay. all right. thank you very much, appreciate your time. >> is there an appeal process for these kinds of issues? >> we do have todd, the assistant general services c.f.o. this is a commercial account as i recall it. so it goes through the standard procedure, and we are on a bimonthly billing cycle. we have a delinquency n
you can't put it on the property tax rule. they do that because they understand the department's need, certain powers, there has to be balance and equity among certain groups. i guess the water department is able to put this on the property tax role too. without getting into details because i know my time is limited. there's a lot of things i'm uncovering. this just seemed quite unfair. it tilts the balance of fairness away from the property owners who are semi-innocent in this situation....
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so we have to expand and once we do, it will create jobs, revenue and taxes for the city. we have a whole expansion team. it's' private-public partnership. all partnering to make this thing happen. so what is our goals? is that location has changed dram itally and to work cost-effectively to stay onbudget and deliver the project. so this is the context of where we're looking at. it's right on the lines of new central subway. there will be a moscone stop. we have three separate buildings, south opened 32 years and north opened 20 years and moscone west opened a little over ten years ago. for the study looked at that whole area and looked at the three moscone sites and the two garages, 5th and missing the and the moscone garage between folsom and howard. one of the problems with moscone center it was built basically when the neighborhood was not what it is today. and it was built kind of in independent, isolated area to almost a suburban-type building in what has been a very urban area. we market san francisco as a pedestrian-friendly city and pedestrians are not allowed to
so we have to expand and once we do, it will create jobs, revenue and taxes for the city. we have a whole expansion team. it's' private-public partnership. all partnering to make this thing happen. so what is our goals? is that location has changed dram itally and to work cost-effectively to stay onbudget and deliver the project. so this is the context of where we're looking at. it's right on the lines of new central subway. there will be a moscone stop. we have three separate buildings, south...
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good neighbor, wants to continue as a good neighbor so there will be added sound-proofing. 30 jobs, tax revenues. i think this is a great project. we request this be sent to the full board with recommendation that it be granted. >> thank you, mark. supervisor wiener, you here on this? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'm here to express my full support for the transfer. while i do not want to in any way speak for my colleagues, i know that supervisor kim, supervisor campos, supervisor olage are in support. this is very broadly supported in the community and recommend the liquor license transfer. >> the department? any comments on this one? >> [ indiscernible ] >> great, same conditions. i assume you have no problems with the conditions. >> we were fine with the conditions. >> great. public comment on this item? please step forward. mr. clerk, we will go with two minutes. >> good morning. my name is troy bernais, president of the castro lions club. we are strong supporters of the eagle. we have been for many, many years. they have been supporters of us because what we do is have fundraisers t
good neighbor, wants to continue as a good neighbor so there will be added sound-proofing. 30 jobs, tax revenues. i think this is a great project. we request this be sent to the full board with recommendation that it be granted. >> thank you, mark. supervisor wiener, you here on this? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'm here to express my full support for the transfer. while i do not want to in any way speak for my colleagues, i know that supervisor kim, supervisor campos, supervisor...
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would support it, that the building department can go after these crooks who are avoiding the hotel tax and avoiding all of the planning laws and this ordinance? so i would urge that even be stronger and that there be enough fines and fees that you can have inspectors and enforcement that would have a lot of teeth in it. currently i don't see that in this ordinance strong enough. so i am again a landlord and i completely support this. thank you. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon supervisors, terry frye. i sent this to you. i emailed this to you this morning, but i would like to read it outloud here and i forget to send it to you supervisor chiu, but i will when i get home. dear supervisors converting rentals into short-term rentals is unconscionable. i see no permits for the work in my piggly-wiggly. how can they completely remodel an apartment, including replacing kitchen and bathroom fixtures without permits? this is absolutely depleting the rental stock in san francisco and with these the store term rentals there will be less people voting in my district, as they will not be incline
would support it, that the building department can go after these crooks who are avoiding the hotel tax and avoiding all of the planning laws and this ordinance? so i would urge that even be stronger and that there be enough fines and fees that you can have inspectors and enforcement that would have a lot of teeth in it. currently i don't see that in this ordinance strong enough. so i am again a landlord and i completely support this. thank you. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon...
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you know last april we passed a payroll tax exclusion to encourage twitter and other companies to take a second look at this neighborhood. and look at what we have accomplished today. eight technology companis have occupied or leased or purchased more than 800,000 square feet. 3300 residential units under construction in and around mid-mark. five new performance and gallery venues opened up the last year, with four more in the pipeline including atr's renovation of the strand theater into a 300-seat theater. eight new small businesses opened in the past year, as well as two expansions of existing storefront businesses, and more is on the way. let's take a walk down the street, because it's kind of hard to see until you really walk it yourself. that is why today i want to walk with you through central market block-by-block and talk to you about what is really underway. so let's start here. on our tour at 5th street, with city place, which has an apt and very appropriately new name. it is called market street place. the project will become 260,000 square foot retail center, which we expe
you know last april we passed a payroll tax exclusion to encourage twitter and other companies to take a second look at this neighborhood. and look at what we have accomplished today. eight technology companis have occupied or leased or purchased more than 800,000 square feet. 3300 residential units under construction in and around mid-mark. five new performance and gallery venues opened up the last year, with four more in the pipeline including atr's renovation of the strand theater into a...
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and her refusal to release form 990 tax statements. at the least mr. renne should follow the lead and recuse himself from this discussion. but what i am asking you is to take this off of your calendar [buzzer] and transfer the cases to another jurisdiction. so that there is not perceived or real conflict of interest. thank you. >> i am allen grossman. the commission and its vast decisions and actions must set the standard of ethical behavior. and conduct expected for those in san francisco. and your behavior is in the commission by the san francisco voters. two items task the commission and executive director meet the standard they should exemplify. first one is for the handling of complaints for the sunshine ordinance. this is the first two submitted to the task force for review and comment. this one five months after your april joint meeting was not. you may not be aware that the task force has been unable to conduct business for four months because of lack of a handicap member and canceled their may meeting. and then appointed six new members, and s
and her refusal to release form 990 tax statements. at the least mr. renne should follow the lead and recuse himself from this discussion. but what i am asking you is to take this off of your calendar [buzzer] and transfer the cases to another jurisdiction. so that there is not perceived or real conflict of interest. thank you. >> i am allen grossman. the commission and its vast decisions and actions must set the standard of ethical behavior. and conduct expected for those in san...
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when with you were debating the twitter payroll tax break, there was a lot of discussion about that. and there are obviously some good things that came out of that. it's generating new jobs in the city, but you heard the downside that creates more pressure, especially the south of market and tenderloin markets in rents. also noted at the time puts pressure in two ways, one student housing and the other hotelization. thank you to supervisor [wao*-eufrpb/]'s leadership and your support. we did deal with the student housing problem a few weeks ago and today you have an opportunity to vote to end hotelization problem that has been bothering the city since the law passed in 1981. i think some of you already have this, but it's a bay citizen article and what is interesting about it is how it speaks to the economics of this. what it talks about is a woman, i don't give her name, but she goes to the landlord with a business proposition, i will give up a rental if you rent it and gave me 10% and the landlord says and at $225 a night when was a $2100 a month apartment is now $6700 a month hote
when with you were debating the twitter payroll tax break, there was a lot of discussion about that. and there are obviously some good things that came out of that. it's generating new jobs in the city, but you heard the downside that creates more pressure, especially the south of market and tenderloin markets in rents. also noted at the time puts pressure in two ways, one student housing and the other hotelization. thank you to supervisor [wao*-eufrpb/]'s leadership and your support. we did...
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calling a tax on g.d.p. . well it's rather simple really if you have ten thousand units of production in an economy in ten thousand units of creditor currency and the government comes along and says ok we're going to deficit spend so we're going to put another thousand units into there then the value of all of the units of credit in currency that currently exists go down by that amount so this is exactly identical from a functional standpoint as if the i.r.s. man showed up on down your door. and so give me ten percent of everything you have . unfortunately that would be very unpopular if you were to turn around and tell the american public oh guess what your taxes are not going up ten percent of what you currently pay they're going up by ten percent of your income and the tax on everything that you produce as a company is going up by ten percent of your production and yet that is essentially what's been going on now for the last four years and so when we look at why we haven't seen job growth and economic reco
calling a tax on g.d.p. . well it's rather simple really if you have ten thousand units of production in an economy in ten thousand units of creditor currency and the government comes along and says ok we're going to deficit spend so we're going to put another thousand units into there then the value of all of the units of credit in currency that currently exists go down by that amount so this is exactly identical from a functional standpoint as if the i.r.s. man showed up on down your door....
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there is a 4.8% tax, an additional 0.9% on your medicare tax. when does that, if you combine it, it is almost 5% increase without reversing of the bush tax cut. >> it is a substantial tax increase. >> for people like us with substantial incomes. >> i am the tax cut. the part of that i would endorse is the increase in the medicare tax. it is unpleasant and it is unpalatable. that is step one. >> what will the average person pay for their medicare tax a month, for how long, and when to get the 0.9% added? >> it is a good question. >> is it added after $125,000? >> i think it is added after $200,000, or $250,000. i am not sure. right now, the medicare tax is 1.45% on all of your salary income. it would go to 2.35%. >> both sides talk about the $750 billion savings. [laughter] who is right? >> we had both become incredibly frustrated. it has to do with the way this is talked about in washington. it has nothing to do with what real people talk about with real money in their lives. the current projection is medicare spending would increase by hundreds
there is a 4.8% tax, an additional 0.9% on your medicare tax. when does that, if you combine it, it is almost 5% increase without reversing of the bush tax cut. >> it is a substantial tax increase. >> for people like us with substantial incomes. >> i am the tax cut. the part of that i would endorse is the increase in the medicare tax. it is unpleasant and it is unpalatable. that is step one. >> what will the average person pay for their medicare tax a month, for how...
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. >> chris: bush tax cuts -- >> tax breaks. he passed the obamacare taxes and a dozen hit middle income taxpayers breaking the promise and he proposes a maxive tax increase on job creators in january and to go to your question, we don't think the idea or solution is to impose new taxes on low income people, we want people out of poverty and back to the middle class, why our economic policies are designed to create jobs, and opportunities so people can get higher take-home pay and the key is this: get people from not paying income taxes because they've had incomes to the middle class so they have jobs that have higher take-home pay and they pay taxes, we want to create more taxpayers and don't want to tax more people with bad tax policy, we want to create taxpayers by growing the middle class and getting people back to work with higher take-home pay and the secret is economic growth, chris. look, the premise of the conversations, the premise of tax -- your tax reform point is, as if the economic pie is fixed and it is the govern
. >> chris: bush tax cuts -- >> tax breaks. he passed the obamacare taxes and a dozen hit middle income taxpayers breaking the promise and he proposes a maxive tax increase on job creators in january and to go to your question, we don't think the idea or solution is to impose new taxes on low income people, we want people out of poverty and back to the middle class, why our economic policies are designed to create jobs, and opportunities so people can get higher take-home pay and...
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and yes, we want to keep taxes low. we don't want to raise taxes. each party is going to have to compromise in order to avoid taking the country over this cliff. what comprises do you believe your own party will have to make to walk the country back from the clip? >> first and foremost, i have said that in my opening, we have to get control over spending. we also have to keep certain financial commitments and that would be social security, medicare and medicaid. now, the defense budget is bloated by anybody's standards. we have a defense budget bigger than 25 other countries and it doesn't matter. they are called terrorists, and that is the people that i was pursuing, to say that we need to keep the defense budget of the present level is just ludicrous. that doesn't mean we need lose 160 jobs -- or however many that he talks about. but first supported it, the sequester, and then he didn't. it is mr. obama's problem. it is the congress' problem. there are a lot of things that we need to address, we need to send things and make sure that the defense d
and yes, we want to keep taxes low. we don't want to raise taxes. each party is going to have to compromise in order to avoid taking the country over this cliff. what comprises do you believe your own party will have to make to walk the country back from the clip? >> first and foremost, i have said that in my opening, we have to get control over spending. we also have to keep certain financial commitments and that would be social security, medicare and medicaid. now, the defense budget is...
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the income on payroll taxes stops at $110,000. >> it's a flat tax. >> it's actually a regressive tax. if you earn $500,000, you're not paying any payroll tax. it's ridiculous. >> assessing something you can't hardly assess, but this is when they all come back after the election, what in the hell is going to happen? how do you read it right now? what are the leaders saying? >> it all comes down to the presidential election, every party is waiting to see what happens and no one really knows, it's going to take real leadership. if anything's going to get done, it's going to be mitch mcconnell. >> this president's going to go over the fiscal cliff. >> what's going on? big tax cuts? big tax -- >> coming up next, my pal steve meister. are you expecting just as an ordinary person who writes the occasional column and follows the politics, do you think we're going have a big smacking huge tax hike after the election, do you think the so-called tax cliff we're all going to fall into it? >> we're at this fiscal cliff, obama is going to engage in this class warfare his entire four years and he ha
the income on payroll taxes stops at $110,000. >> it's a flat tax. >> it's actually a regressive tax. if you earn $500,000, you're not paying any payroll tax. it's ridiculous. >> assessing something you can't hardly assess, but this is when they all come back after the election, what in the hell is going to happen? how do you read it right now? what are the leaders saying? >> it all comes down to the presidential election, every party is waiting to see what happens and...
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rich were supposed to pay the majority of their taxes in federal taxes. working-class and the port were supposed to pay the majority of theirs in homeowners' taxes, city and state taxes -- ordering class and the poor. everything is out of sorts. when you are on fixed income and these states will have to have such a high tax rate because the federal government will have such a lower one. anybody i fixed tax rate goes in and buys a refrigerator that costs $400, will have about a $100 tax on the refrigerator. that is the problem. the ones it will hurt our people that are retired, people that are on disability, things like that. otherwise, i am completely in line with you. i voted for ron paul in 1988. i voted for paul brown. i think he -- i can remember what year it was that he ran as a libertarian. i voted for ross perot once. i am an open-minded person and i watch things very closely. host: thank you for calling. guest: i think by going to a national consumption tax, one federal national consumption tax -- i think that's a lot more fair. it ends up being c
rich were supposed to pay the majority of their taxes in federal taxes. working-class and the port were supposed to pay the majority of theirs in homeowners' taxes, city and state taxes -- ordering class and the poor. everything is out of sorts. when you are on fixed income and these states will have to have such a high tax rate because the federal government will have such a lower one. anybody i fixed tax rate goes in and buys a refrigerator that costs $400, will have about a $100 tax on the...
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everybody would like a tax cut. who wouldn't want a tax cut, especially 20% across the board if you're making 35%, the top rate, you go to 28%. all chris wallace was trying to get from ryan on sunday was just tell me what big deductions you're going to get rid of so we can finance that. it's the question. of course everybody wants a tax cut but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits tell us how you're going to do it and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rit of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little do dads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodge ball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the mid-12348. >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrerer to be very tough, res
everybody would like a tax cut. who wouldn't want a tax cut, especially 20% across the board if you're making 35%, the top rate, you go to 28%. all chris wallace was trying to get from ryan on sunday was just tell me what big deductions you're going to get rid of so we can finance that. it's the question. of course everybody wants a tax cut but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits tell us how you're going to do it and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rit of charitable...
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so let's hear him explain the tax policy. >> the cut in tax rates is lower -- all american tax rates -- >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. the first half, lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no, no. look, i won't get into a baseline argument with you. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> all right. you know what, mitt? you better put paul ryan away somewhere. send him to a sports bar somewhere in ohio. at least he can have a few beers with voters. he's got that going for him. who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs
so let's hear him explain the tax policy. >> the cut in tax rates is lower -- all american tax rates -- >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. the first half, lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no, no. look, i won't get into a baseline argument with you. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go...
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we don't want to tax more people with bad tax policy. we want to grow the middle class and get people back to work with higher take home fay. the secret to this is economic growth, chris. the premise of the conversations and tax reform point is as if the economic pie is fixed and that it is governments if job to redistribute the slices. is not how the world works. we want to grow the pie and we want economic opportunity. we want people to be able to get a better job and have more income security and higher take home pay and you can do that through economic growth and that is what we are trying to provide and what we can get if we put the progrowth policies in place. >> chris: a number of top republicans say that when romney picked you as his running mate a little over a month ago that they thought that this indicated that you guys were going to run a bold reform agenda campaign and now expressing some frustration that instead of you changing romney you heard this that they feel that romney is changing you and you are running a much more
we don't want to tax more people with bad tax policy. we want to grow the middle class and get people back to work with higher take home fay. the secret to this is economic growth, chris. the premise of the conversations and tax reform point is as if the economic pie is fixed and that it is governments if job to redistribute the slices. is not how the world works. we want to grow the pie and we want economic opportunity. we want people to be able to get a better job and have more income...
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one thing or another is that a tax increase or not? it is through the tax system. so, did you lie? he's going to say no, i did not lie. >> you say something, you call him out on it. here's the deal. romney's not going to try to bring it up in the debate. nor will president obama because the moment you do, you have opened the door for your opponent to actually you out. so, responsibility's going to rest on the debate moderator, who is not going to do it, but again, what people are saying is can i get somebody to tell me the truth? you can cross words all you want to, but there are some things called undeniable truth. so no matter how you want to dance around it, some things are very clear. >> there's also such a thing as throwi throwing things against the wall and that is what the obama campaign has been effective at doing and the romney campaign hasn't been. >> the romney campaign, they have been -- i can show you the proof. go to our website. again, you have campaigns -- >> check up on after the fact. >> my point, you said earlier -- i said absolutely. if you have that many eyebal
one thing or another is that a tax increase or not? it is through the tax system. so, did you lie? he's going to say no, i did not lie. >> you say something, you call him out on it. here's the deal. romney's not going to try to bring it up in the debate. nor will president obama because the moment you do, you have opened the door for your opponent to actually you out. so, responsibility's going to rest on the debate moderator, who is not going to do it, but again, what people are saying...
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tax experts said today 90% of american families are facing what they call unprecedented tax increases. how much? wyatt andrews is in washington tonight. wyat >> reporter: scott, according to the non-partisan tax policy center, the united states is now on the threshold of one of the largest tax increases in history-- a tax hike that could average $3,500 for every american household. without action by congress, the report says, taxes will go up next year by 20%-- $536 billion overall and will hit americans at every income level, including those living below the poverty line. for a middle-income family making $40,000 a year, taxes will go up by $2,000. the increases are so large because the nation's biggest tax cuts all expire three months from now on new year's day. they include the bush-era federal income tax cuts, the payroll tax cut that lowered social security and medicare taxes, and several remaining stimulus tax cuts all go away january 1 unless congress and the president reach a deal on the budget. many economists are concerned that a tax increase of that size could shock the eco
tax experts said today 90% of american families are facing what they call unprecedented tax increases. how much? wyatt andrews is in washington tonight. wyat >> reporter: scott, according to the non-partisan tax policy center, the united states is now on the threshold of one of the largest tax increases in history-- a tax hike that could average $3,500 for every american household. without action by congress, the report says, taxes will go up next year by 20%-- $536 billion overall and...
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so far, the tax code is really segmented largely for personal and business taxes. the sharing economy presents a nuanced situation. individuals are not businesses but are enjoying a new stream of income. we are interested in having that conversation in a way where we can use the new economy to benefit the city as well as individuals who are proactively taking all entrepreneurship in their own hands to leverage their own resources and knowledge to supplement their income. >> at task rabbit, we're looking to partner with the city and generate more awareness around what we do and how consumers and small businesses can get involved. we have a lot of small businesses utilizing the network as a delivery force or on demand labor force, particularly with seasonal businesses. they do not want to have to hire a bunch of full-time employees for a month or two of work. they're able to utilize the task private network to scale up and down. another case we see is for deliveries. suzy cakes uses task rabbit to get her goodies out. these tasks rabbits are using their own vehicles
so far, the tax code is really segmented largely for personal and business taxes. the sharing economy presents a nuanced situation. individuals are not businesses but are enjoying a new stream of income. we are interested in having that conversation in a way where we can use the new economy to benefit the city as well as individuals who are proactively taking all entrepreneurship in their own hands to leverage their own resources and knowledge to supplement their income. >> at task...
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because as liberals, we want to see the tax on work reduced, the tax on unearned wealth increased, and the system as a whole tilted in favour of those on low and middle incomes. the budget delivered all three. but let me make one thing clear, now that we have brought the top rate of tax down to 45p -- a level, let's not forget, that is still higher than throughout labour's 13 years in office -- there can be no question of reducing it further in this parliament. [applause] all future cuts in personal taxation must pass one clear test, do they help people on low and middle incomes get by and get on? it's as simple as that. at the next election, all parties will have to acknowledge the need for further belt tightening. that much is inescapable. but the key question we will all have to answer is who will have to tighten their belts the most? our position is clear. if we have to ask people to take less out or pay more in, we'll start with the richest and work our way down, not the other way around. we won't waver in our determination to deal with our debts. but we will do it in our own way,
because as liberals, we want to see the tax on work reduced, the tax on unearned wealth increased, and the system as a whole tilted in favour of those on low and middle incomes. the budget delivered all three. but let me make one thing clear, now that we have brought the top rate of tax down to 45p -- a level, let's not forget, that is still higher than throughout labour's 13 years in office -- there can be no question of reducing it further in this parliament. [applause] all future cuts in...
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our tax rates and deregulate. in the book, i tell the stories of new disee zealand, israel, a number of countries that have faced crisis far exceeding our current predicament. and new zealand is one of favorites. it was the third richest country in the world in the 1930s and by the 1980s it was the third world country. and it couldn't even feed itself. and 5% -- 45% of all agricultural revenue came from the deposit. it was socially a socialist country. they flat end out all of their government spending. eliminating alling a churm sub i dids and new see land began feeding itself and became the great source of the food around the world and competed in dairy with wisconsin so aggressively that the wisconsin dairymen accused of them of unfair trading practice alls all the way from new zealand. it is the great vanity of bureaucrats that somehow their jobs are awfully important. but after the second world war, we eliminated 150,000 bureau crateds, millions of federal workers and the same economists are therefore bearers
our tax rates and deregulate. in the book, i tell the stories of new disee zealand, israel, a number of countries that have faced crisis far exceeding our current predicament. and new zealand is one of favorites. it was the third richest country in the world in the 1930s and by the 1980s it was the third world country. and it couldn't even feed itself. and 5% -- 45% of all agricultural revenue came from the deposit. it was socially a socialist country. they flat end out all of their government...
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. >> nobody likes taxes, but let's not raise anybody's taxes, ok? the fact is, businesses in america are paying the second highest tax rate of anywhere in the world. our business tax rate for america is seventh -- is 35%. ireland, is 11%. where will they go where they can create jobs and do the best for their business? we need to encourage business. of all times in america, we need to cut taxes, encourage business, create jobs, not spread the wealth around. >> that debate took place on october 15, 2008. and a reminder that the 2012 debate -- the first 2012 debate takes place this wednesday. and you can watch on c-span, listen on c-span radio, or watch on line. coming up come on the nevada senate debate. the incumbent and his challenger held their first debate. it is courtesy of kmpb tv. it is one of the closest races in the country. it is an hour. >> could evening. we have the incumbent and challenger who will face off in an hour-long debate. i am mitch fox from vegas cbs and i will serve as moderator. here is the format. each candidate will give a
. >> nobody likes taxes, but let's not raise anybody's taxes, ok? the fact is, businesses in america are paying the second highest tax rate of anywhere in the world. our business tax rate for america is seventh -- is 35%. ireland, is 11%. where will they go where they can create jobs and do the best for their business? we need to encourage business. of all times in america, we need to cut taxes, encourage business, create jobs, not spread the wealth around. >> that debate took place...
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and he's just as hapless on taxes. >> raise taxes with obama care but he's got another taxes in mind. >> governor romney doesn't need zingers. he needs to get his story straight. he needs to stop debating himself. and at the end of the day, this election isn't about one liners. just ask our president. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hardworking americans. that's what people are going to be listening for. that's the debate that you deserve. >> that's the debate voters deserve. and on wednesday night, they won't be distracted by any zingers cooked up by romney's team of joke writers. joining me now is michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek" and the daily beast. and dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." thanks to you both for coming on tonight. dana, are zingers the answer for mitt romney? >> well, he has to beware the very perilous boomerang zinger. delivering
and he's just as hapless on taxes. >> raise taxes with obama care but he's got another taxes in mind. >> governor romney doesn't need zingers. he needs to get his story straight. he needs to stop debating himself. and at the end of the day, this election isn't about one liners. just ask our president. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to...
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>> such as reforming social security, medicare, higher taxes, lower taxes? >> yes. and on the table are all sorts of things that many people value a great deal and we may not be able to afford anymore. so should we have deductibility for second home mortgages? should we have deductibility for high-cost homes? should we have health insurance coverage provided by employers continue to be deductible? if so, for whom, should it be for all? and should we raise the age of entitlement, if so, to what level?" when someone says that about social programs, i want to also hear the answer to the question, "what are you doing with military spending? and how do you justify the tradeoff? we've gotta get the revenue someplace. where are you willing to cut? and if not, why not? when you're putting really valued things on the table. and simply saying that the wealthy are going to pay more doesn't solve the problem. the wealthy are going to need to pay more, but so is what most people define as the middle class, and there are going to be cuts across the board, including the military,
>> such as reforming social security, medicare, higher taxes, lower taxes? >> yes. and on the table are all sorts of things that many people value a great deal and we may not be able to afford anymore. so should we have deductibility for second home mortgages? should we have deductibility for high-cost homes? should we have health insurance coverage provided by employers continue to be deductible? if so, for whom, should it be for all? and should we raise the age of entitlement, if...
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lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- let me finish. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> i got to tell you, what did you think of that? i thought that was unbelievable. >> why? >> first of all, it was on fox which we all have views on what you think fox will do. second of all, i think he has no details. >> i don't agree with that. he sat on the set with us. >> they provided zero -- >> in this caught my attention so i decided to -- >> zero details. but more importantly, later in the tape, which we didn't get a chance to show, he says we're going to be able to keep charitable deductions, keep the mortgage deduction, keep the deduction on health care. and there is no way in a million years no matter who scores this including marty feldstein and others that would possibly suggest that this could be revenue neutral. >> it does if you broaden the base to 100,000. >> but that's not what he talked about on the show. and he refuses to say exactl
lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- let me finish. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> i got to tell you, what did you think of that? i thought that was unbelievable. >> why? >> first of all, it was on fox which we all have views on what you think fox will do. second of all, i think he has no details. >> i don't agree with that. he sat on the set with us....
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we have to look at what are the canadian taxes? the european taxes? the tacks in -- tax in vietnam in when you shop you do fault say i will only buy that if it is made in america. if we want our economies to succeed they have to compete with vietnam companies. >>neil: but if he is saying that i am going to lower taxes but it may not be what it appears because i will take away breaks which is fine for simplified tax code, et cetera, does he risk alienating a base that did not trust him? that he was serious about the big reagan-like cut in taxes. >>guest: my discussions is he understands we are competing and he knows we have to reduce our taxes. >>neil: who was he reaching out to? >>guest: you have to ask him. >>neil: independent voters? >>guest: he understands we are competing and he understands we have to have he we are taxes. if we have more jobs in america, and we want american businesses to do well, we have to is lower taxes than the rest of the developed world. if we don't, brings are going to go out of this country. >>neil: as a former health car
we have to look at what are the canadian taxes? the european taxes? the tacks in -- tax in vietnam in when you shop you do fault say i will only buy that if it is made in america. if we want our economies to succeed they have to compete with vietnam companies. >>neil: but if he is saying that i am going to lower taxes but it may not be what it appears because i will take away breaks which is fine for simplified tax code, et cetera, does he risk alienating a base that did not trust him?...
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taxes. working-class and the port were supposed to pay the majority of theirs in homeowners' taxes, city and state taxes -- ordering class and the poor. everything is out of sorts. when you are on fixed income and these states will have to have such a high tax rate because the federal government will have such a lower one. anybody i fixed tax rate goes in and buys a refrigerator that costs $400, will have about a $100 tax on the refrigerator. that is the problem. the ones it will hurt our people that are retired, people that are on disability, things like that. otherwise, i am completely in line with you. i voted for ron paul in 1988. i voted for paul brown. i think he -- i can remember what year it was that he ran as a libertarian. once.ed for ross perot wan i am an open-minded person and i watch things very closely. host: thank you for calling. guest: i think by going to a national consumption tax, one federal national consumption tax -- i think that's a lot more fair. it ends up being cos
taxes. working-class and the port were supposed to pay the majority of theirs in homeowners' taxes, city and state taxes -- ordering class and the poor. everything is out of sorts. when you are on fixed income and these states will have to have such a high tax rate because the federal government will have such a lower one. anybody i fixed tax rate goes in and buys a refrigerator that costs $400, will have about a $100 tax on the refrigerator. that is the problem. the ones it will hurt our...
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i live in new york i pay 50 percent in taxes. >> the rich are paying most of the taxes in the country. statistics come out that are amazing. >> it is like an amazing number. i was surprised to see it. they work hard they employ people. this is a very, very bad time. we are in a weak economy. this would be a bad time to raise taxes for any one whether it's the rich, the poor. now in all fairness less than 50 percent of the people in this country pay taxes anyway which is another amazing statistic. i wouldn't believe that statistic. the rich pay tremendous amounts of taxes. most of the taxes in the country and they really have to be at least -- rich people if they don't love their country they can go to other countries and pay a lot less tax. if you were in new york and the taxes were high you could move to florida or move here. with globalization and everything -- >> why don't you move to florida. we have golf courses in miami. >> i have a lot of great properties in florida. i just -- >> the minute you walk you hed florida. >> i love new york. i stick with new york. it's a great place.
i live in new york i pay 50 percent in taxes. >> the rich are paying most of the taxes in the country. statistics come out that are amazing. >> it is like an amazing number. i was surprised to see it. they work hard they employ people. this is a very, very bad time. we are in a weak economy. this would be a bad time to raise taxes for any one whether it's the rich, the poor. now in all fairness less than 50 percent of the people in this country pay taxes anyway which is another...
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true tax reform has the effect of lowering tax rates for everybody, but all these special interest groups, precious loopholes and deductions -- i am on the general public's side, i am against the interest groups in washington. if he proposes that, that is a true thing and that could work in the end. >> not to rob the obama people of credit for their advertising campaign, but let me remind you, these wounds have been self- inflicted. you want to get $10,000, rick perry? ann drives a couple of cadillacs. we're building a car elevator in our home. i like to fire people these were all voluntarily offered by mitt romney. >> and he has taken responsibility for that. >> the reason he does not lay out what you say is, among other things, there are studies that disputed, and people will say, you are going to take away mortgage tax deductions? suddenly everybody is up in arms. >> not necessarily true. you can say that anybody over a certain amount can only deduct up to 2% of income -- >> now you are into the weeds. >> it is not the week, it is the facts. >> that's get into the weeds. >> are you mak
true tax reform has the effect of lowering tax rates for everybody, but all these special interest groups, precious loopholes and deductions -- i am on the general public's side, i am against the interest groups in washington. if he proposes that, that is a true thing and that could work in the end. >> not to rob the obama people of credit for their advertising campaign, but let me remind you, these wounds have been self- inflicted. you want to get $10,000, rick perry? ann drives a couple...
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the earned income tax credit. i doubled the earned income tax credit. it was signed under the tax credit. reagan started it. we started it with a strong support of republicans in congress. president bush dealt with that, then president obama increased the earned income tax credit for families with more than three children. this is a rejection of basically more than three decades of bipartisan policy to support working families. it's not a bunch of free loaders. there's only 4% of the total population who don't pay federal income tax and don't work and may not be looking for work. we now have the numbers on this, so, i think that most important thing for him is to find a way to relate to more people in these debates and speak to more of them. this is not the republican primary anymore. >> is he principled, do you think? mitt romney? >> that's not the issue, to me. i think he will -- i think he's principled in the sense that he will keep e commitments that he has made. almost all people when they run for president m
the earned income tax credit. i doubled the earned income tax credit. it was signed under the tax credit. reagan started it. we started it with a strong support of republicans in congress. president bush dealt with that, then president obama increased the earned income tax credit for families with more than three children. this is a rejection of basically more than three decades of bipartisan policy to support working families. it's not a bunch of free loaders. there's only 4% of the total...